Thursday, May 29, 2008

JW's at the Door

On Monday morning I was in a sour mood and was praying to God for relief. My relief came in the form of two Jevhovah's Witnesses at the door. Oh boy, my despair immediately turned to gratitude for such a great opportunity. In Utah we do not get many JW's so I was very excited. I answered and let them give their spiel and they asked me if I had a Bible I said yes, and they asked which translation I said I got most of them and so I grabbed a NKJV. They took me to a few verses that proved God is love. I agreed with them, and pointed out that is not his only quality. After they kept using Jehovah as a name over and over I asked them what their Gospel was. To everything I asked I got a "Well...... and after a pause a limited response. This was especially true as we talked about salvation. See they have a very different concept of salvation and when we got on the topic of Hell the lesser of the two said "God would never torture someone." I simply asked how they define torture and she said "Hell is torture" I asked her to show me which verse that is, and she said well it is in there. Which is a common response from those who really do not know. They could not tell me what hope there was in their belief other than the denial of Hell, which is ironic because that is what Jesus warned about. I took them to 2 Thessalonians 1:8,9 and their Bible said something that was no where near accurate so I showed them from my NKJV. For other reference (Revelation 21:8 : Revelation 22:15; 1 Cor 6:9, 10; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 5:5; 1 Tim 1:9; Heb 12:14)

"in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,"

I showed them how destruction does not mean annihilation that it is everlasting and not ceasing. Again they did not care because the Watchtower has told them otherwise.
So I then asked them why they said I could use my translation and why it was so different. They proceeded to tell me how the Watchtower were better translaters. I had to hold in a laugh because even with one semester of Greek I can see clearly how the Watchtower does not translate very well especially verses that bother them like John 1:1-3, which by the way in the Greek is so Trinitarian there is no question God consists of the Trinity.

So I asked them what they do with Colossians 2:9 and again they said well.... and they had no answer "For in Him (Jesus) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;" I said so the fullness of Jehovah dwells in Jesus Christ. And they said no that Jesus was Micheal the Archangel etc. I asked what verse was that and again they had no answer. She wanted to attack my semantics so we went back to salvation and she told me how she will go to sleep and then possibly be resurrected with Jesus, not with the 144,000 though. I said then why did Jesus die? She said for "this life" I said what about this life did Jesus die for? She said well it was not on a CROSS! I had to get further explanation of that because they believe because the Bible refers to the Cross in one verse as a tree (prophetic verse) that it was not in fact a Cross but a stake. (I guess that means Luke 23:26 was translated wrong and 98 other verses) I realized that these guys were simply trained to attack Christian Doctrine much like the Mormons who come to my door. So I used the tiebreaker on them.... if they are right and I am wrong then what.... she said well nothing I will go to sleep. I said ok, but if the Bible is right and they are wrong they will bed judged and sent to Hell forever and they have been preaching that Christ was not Lord and God will hold them accountable for that.....The lesser of the two looked sullen at this point at it appears something got her and the elder of the two ushered her away. I said good bye and I said another parting thought it must be hard for you here in Utah. They nodded their heads. :) (One false religion preaching to another)


Kurt Michaelson said...

Great testimony, thanks!

I had a classmate who is a JW and she tried to argue the same points as you mentioned. She recently invited me to participate in a bible study and I asked what the topic would be so that I could prepare for it. So far I haven't heard from her.

Scott Criswell said...

Good stuff Andy! I've known many JW from my childhood in FL. They are an "interesting" bunch.

When I was in High school I only had a limited ability (so I thought at the time) to defend the faith. Many of the people I knew well were JW. All that said I found it disheartening that they would actually appoint certain individuals to basically report on the others. Every time I got into a friendly relationship with one of them or shared any part of my faith they would immediately stop talking to me and become distant. They either did not want other JW to know that they were speaking with me or had already been reported by one of their classmates.

It's very sad to see the grip cults have on their followers. I pray for a revival that these cults cannot withstand. That the one true God will be known and that Christ will be glorified!

jeff said...

Andy, it's clear that you are educated, and have a firm and accurate grasp of the gospel message and God's word. I just hope that when you are sharing the truth, your intention is not to win the argument but to win the soul. Knowing you personally, I know you truly have a heart for the lost, but keep evaluating where you heart is and how you come across with others when you share the truth.

Andy said...

Jeff, well said brother, I must always being examining myself to make sure that Truth is meshed with the Grace.

Appreciate the timely advice!