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There are churches all over that play Rob Bell's Nooma videos. I make no bones about it, Rob Bell ascribes to Universalism, Humanism and denies fundamental Christian teachings like the virgin birth, salvation by Grace through faith alone, etc.
Someone produced a very insightful and frankly staggering video to respond to Rob Bell's false understanding of who Jesus is.........watch and then of course send or post your comments.
Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Bullwhip Guy
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This BullWhip Guy video is kind of humorous, a good parody. He does a good Rob Bell impression. I haven’t seen all of Bell’s Bullhorn video to say much, only the short clip available on Youtube, but I’d have to agree with Bell at least in part, because I to would have a problem with the Bullhorn guy. I think this parody video is trying to force a different context onto Bell’s words that doesn’t reflect what Bell is really saying, because I like what Jesus did in the Temple, and I think a good dose of that might do the American church of today some good. If Jesus walked into one of our rich churches and started knocking off the wall some of those HDTVs, kicked the contribution box over, and grabbed that big American flag from behind the podium and tossed it to the ground, I think that would make a quick improvement on things.
But I honestly can’t say much more about Rob Bell, since I’ve only watched a couple of his video’s, and can’t even remember what they were about.
Thomas,
Our preferences do not matter it is whether or not they line up to scripture. If Rob Bell wants to be a Christian then among other things he needs to put scripture above his own interpretation and preferences. There is objective truth out there and that is why we have the Word of God. Bullwhip guy lines up with Scripture and what Rob Bell did is put out his disdain for something he is uncomfortable with. He does not back it with truth or empirical evidence. That is why all these false teachers are soooo scary.
>…he needs to put scripture above his own interpretation and preferences.
Which scripture do you recommend? I have to ask, since I don’t know if you’re one of those KJV only type of guys, or one who rejects the RSV, as too liberal. Do you prefer the Greek Majority text for your NT, or do you trust the text critics and uphold the Critical Text? (I’m assuming you know what I’m talking about, since I think I read on one of your posts that you are studying Greek.) And thinking of Greek, which OT do you prefer? The Septuagint, quoted by the NT writers, and the official text of the Orthodox Church, or the later canonized version (Jamnia, 90 AD) used in most English translations today? Which English translation would you recommend above all? Which ones wouldn’t you recommend? And Why?
Also, I see that you uphold the Reformed Tradition; I’m assuming then that you then see Premillennial Dispensationalists, the Restoration Movement, other forms of Christian fundamentalism, big groups like Catholics, Orthodox, and the Coptic Orthodox in Egypt, etc., several other Protestants, like maybe Anglicans (certainly the Episcopalians), those that fall in under the Anabaptist traditions, various other mainline liberal protestant churches, in all their rainbow colors, i.e. Lutherans, Methodists, etc., etc. are all erroneous interpreters of the Bible, since there is only one objective truth, right? Or do you have a more nuanced view of objective truth?
Didymus,
I mean the 66 books of the Bible the Canonized version. I have read much of the different variants of Hermeneutics including the textual criticism method. I have read and researched the arguments. In all reality their is nothing that is affects theologically definitively. Their might have been some copiest errors but they are minor and do not effect the Gospel in any way.
I am fine with the KJV and I also use the ESV which derives its text from both the textus receptus and the Greek Majority (RSV). You are asking a question here so that you can take your presupposition and try and defend the god you have created in your mind. Go read an ESV and compare it to the Greek in the NT. I do not think a OT debate is hardly worthwhile because of all the text we have. And I have already dealt with both canonization and the councils pre 1500's.
I think their are many in many denominations that are saved which includes Lutheran, Anglican, and Methodist. I also believe their are many false converts in every church as Jesus preached about this much.
All Christians regardless of denomination agree on the essentials.
Salvation through Christ by Grace alone
The Deity of Christ
In errancy of God's Word
The Trinity
All the churches you mentioned at some have those things in common at their core and we do not debate those issues. Not until very recently have some churches in all denominations decided to apostate themselves from the Body of Believers. Christ called His Church the "Bride" and He does not tolerate those who seek to undermine the work of the Cross regardless of your affiliation.
So my view of truth is inseparable from God and His Word because He created it that way.
So what is your favorite proof for Evolution? After reading your blog I see that you have a passion for being an Evolutionist. Please explain which points of the THEORY you think are the most observable today?
>After reading your blog I see that you have a passion for being an Evolutionist.
Oh that old blog. That was one of my few attempts at political activism. When Sen. Butters was trying to get his anti-evolution bill through the state congress I gave him some bad press. I had a lot of fun with that blog, a lot of interesting conversation.
>So what is your favorite proof for Evolution? ...Please explain which points of the THEORY you think are the most observable today?
I’m a fossil and geology aficionado, and I grew up with science, watching Carl Sagan’s ‘Cosmos’, and my dad was an engineer. I have no favorite proof, I just find the science of evolution fascinating, and it makes complete sense to me to say that’s how God did it.
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