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Didymus,

Here is the bottom line of your we...

2008-08-28T15:37:00.000-06:00

Didymus,

Here is the bottom line of your weak argument: This is the outrageous and unacceptable language that Obama vehemently believed threatened to undermine Roe v Wade and is why he did not support ANY bill protecting infants born alive after a botched abortion. From the Obama website you provided the link for:
(c) A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be
fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under
the law.

Obama says he would have voted for it if only it would have included additional language that made abortion legal forever and for all eternity...
But explain how the verbiage above applies to any UNBORN baby? It only applies to a live child BORN as a result of an abortion. How much clearer does this statement need to be Didymus? I think the true issue regarding Obama is his repeated inability to process information without reading more into it or discarding bits and pieces that he doesn't like. Hmm...funny how Emergents supporting Obama have taken claim of the verse Matthew 25- they just white out Matthew 18 and the whole 1st chapter of Jeremiah in their Bibles because it contradicts their anti-God, anti-baby ideology. Another fine example of this is Obama's answer to Rick Warren's question as to who he would consult regarding foreign policy and presidential issues. Did you not wince as Obama named off his wife and his dear old grandma. Before you blame the question, Warren asked the identical question to McCain and he named off some highly experienced people. It does not surprise me at all that Emergents are embracing Barrack Obama. There are so many similar qualities that both camps share.
Namely, the inability to process information without taking it out of context and using it to distort what the truth actually is. Propaganda works like a charm on poser Christians and people who only want to hear things that make them "feel good". Gloss over the death of 4,000 babies every day in this country and focus instead on the 4,000 adult men and women who lost their lives doing their job, fighting for freedom over in Iraq. Detract the focus from the big issues and redirect them to the minor ones. Never mind reality, babies, the Bible or anything that takes away from the sexy, Barry White voiced tempo of justifying everything and anything so long as it sounds smooth, appeases the major financial donors like Planned Parenthood and keeps you from thinking about the wrath of God, the disgusting amount of babies being destroyed every day and that little voice you crush every day called your conscience.

Didymus,

Funny you say I didnt do my homewo...

2008-08-28T14:41:00.000-06:00

Didymus,

Funny you say I didnt do my homework, but I have already heard his excuse.

From his website:
"The bills Senator Obama voted against in Illinois were crafted to undermine Roe v. Wade or pre-existing Illinois state law regulating reproductive healthcare and medical practice, which is why Senator Obama objected to them."

So in order to maintain Abortion he chose to let infanticide continue? Seriously that is what is says...... I cannot imagine any bill that would be proposed to stop infanticide would be condusive to Roe vs. Wade. The biggest reason is it says if the baby is born alive they have to not kill it. The problem with that is they acknowledge it is a BABY. So based upon Obama's reasoning if a bill is up in the sentate that says that someone killing a pregnant woman would get double homicide he would vote against that bill because it might affect Roe vs. Wade......

The Bill stated that if a Child is born alive then the doctor cannot discard it or kill it. There is no such bill in Illinois right now, despite Obama's best attempts at saying so. The Bill Obama is referring to is a general sanctity of life Bill and does NOT apply to babies that are intended to be ABORTED. The proposed legislation extended sanctity of life to the infant regardless of how long it was in the womb. And yes it was a step towards babies rights, but it did not overturn Roe vs. Wade. But hey I am just one of those fundamental Baby loving, Marriage loving, Bible loving people that as Obama says "hold on to faith only in times of need"

That Obama site amounts to semantics. What, is he ...

2008-08-28T14:01:00.000-06:00

That Obama site amounts to semantics. What, is he arguing for the lesser of two evils? Come on. Homework eh? Obama voted this way on the state level, there is no denying it. His reasoning is absolutey irrelevant.
His support for the legally sanctioned death of 6000 babies a day is enough proof, this is just the tip of the damnable iceberg.

What bigger issue is there? I'll take a side of truth, hold the contextualization and relevance please.

Prodigal & Andy,

I really shouldn't...

2008-08-28T13:39:00.000-06:00

Prodigal & Andy,

I really shouldn't have to do your homework for you. So to keep it simple for you guys, checkout Obama's site here, then check to see if what is said is true.

"invisible platform"? No, I have a platform, and that is I think Andy should hold to higher standards than he does. There is much to criticize Obama on, and there is probably even more to criticize the Matthew25 Network on, but accusing Obama of infanticide just leaves you with mud on your face.

Didymus,

Oh you are using the ole pejorativ...

2008-08-28T11:27:00.000-06:00

Didymus,

Oh you are using the ole pejorative "Anti" word..... wow that is relevant.

Just show me where the video is wrong specifically. Did he vote 3 times for infanticide? If so how do you justify that mans actions and how can he call himself a Christian?

Again didymus, you have avoided the issue with rhe...

2008-08-28T06:40:00.000-06:00

Again didymus, you have avoided the issue with rhetoric about "easily discrediting propaganda." Gimme a break. Why not address the issue? Instead, in virtually all of the obama related discussions you have gotten involved in, you have focused on the idea that the man's own words are being used as propaganda. Yet you have never produced a cojent argument for whatever it is you believe. Let me guess what your response will be: You don't "feel" a response is needed. I bet it sure is easy to criticize the blog author from your invisible platform. After all, who needs to defend what was never said?

Andy, do you promote every anti-Obama propaganda v...

2008-08-28T01:11:00.000-06:00

Andy, do you promote every anti-Obama propaganda video that comes out?

You might want to see if there is a little more substance to Obama's POV before you smear your own website with such easily discredited propaganda.

[a web blast that jolted me - Irv]

OBAMA SU...

2008-08-27T23:16:00.000-06:00

[a web blast that jolted me - Irv]

OBAMA SUPPORTS HOMOSEXUALS
(and supports the "rights" of little kids to view public depravity!)

Google "Americans for Truth," click on "Zombietime" [or go directly to: www.zombietime.com], then click on "Up Your Alley Fair"! After recovering from the uncensored photos (!), Yahoo "God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up" on the "ucmpage" listing (even Jesus told Judas to hurry up - John 13:27). Also Yahoo "Dangerous Radicals of the Religious Right." See all of this before the predicted California earthquake happens a la Rev. 16:19 ("the cities of the nations fell") - and before hurricanes and other conscience-stirring disasters occur elsewhere!

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